Analytical Look at the 2-8 or sometimes 20-80 scale

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Analytical Look at the 2-8 or sometimes 20-80 scale

Post by Eddie Paxil-Commish » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:32 pm

When scouts are tasked at evaluating talent, putting an exact number on it is VERY difficult, especially when scouting amateurs (HS or COL) and international players, because the level of competition varies so much that actual statistics mean very little. So, the only thing the scout can really judge is how much better is this player than the other players that the scout has viewed and to do that particularly with reference to how rare the player is.

So, Branch Rickey was the first to start using a 2-8 scale to handle this problem. Why 2-8 you ask? Well, if you assume that baseball players are normally distributed, then we can start with a 5 being the average player.

So, 5 is your average Joe. 50% of players will be better than he is, and 50% of the league will be worse than he is.

How do we assign the next two closest values, a 4 and a 6, well, since we aren't working with hard numbers and only the eyes of the scout, we need some metric that we can roughly apply with the eye to indicate skill. So, back we go to the normal distribution and leverage the standard deviation of a normal distribution which has been well established as follows:


Population covered by n standard deviations from the mean:

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Deviation from the mean            % of population covered

         1                                 68%
         2                                 95%
         3                                 99.7%
So, if we try to leverage this, by assigning the ratings scale move out from 5, adding a new number each time we travel another standard deviation from the mean, we get a system like this:

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Rating    Standard Deviations
   2              - 3
   3              - 2
   4              - 1
   5                0
   6              + 1
   7              + 2
   8              + 3
So, as you can see, this really changes the way that players are evaluated for trade and for performance by both the computer and the players. If I'm asking you to trade me a player who's rated overall as a 7 and I'm trying to give you two players rated as a 6, this is a pretty tough deal for you. The player I am getting performs, according to my assessment, better than 95% of players in the league, and I'm trading you two guys that could be just a tick above average or maybe better, but its hard to really tell, right?

This is the beauty of the system, it really reveals just how many players in the league are basically average and indicates how difficult it is to judge the difference between a MLB average player and a guy who is a solid, but not spectacular player. 68% of all players in MLB could be average or slightly better, say an All-Star season or two during their careers and after that its up to you to judge their ML performance to decide who's worth keeping and who is not. But, much like real life, when you get to a "7", you're talking about top 5 maybe top 10 player in the league, which is a much smaller range than our 6, which should be somewhere between average to an occasional all star. As an interesting side note, many of you will be familiar with the scouting terms "plus" and "plus plus", which on the 2-8 scale indicates a 6 and a 7. This is perfect and very revealing to what's going on because a 6 is plus 1 standard deviations from the average.
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